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    My family befriended an Indonesian crew member from the 'Tromp' when it came to Australia for repairs during WWII (1942-1944). Can anyone tell me how I could trace him and his records to find out what happened to him? My grandfather tried to find him after the war through the Red Cross but had no success. Is there a central archives for records of seamen in the Dutch Navy?

    Thanks,
    Elaine

  • #2
    Hello Elaine,
    Good to see another "aussie" on board!

    I may be able to help you as in the past years i have recieved information on my Grandfather from the Dutch Navy.

    My email address: mattdare@optusnet.com.au

    Send me an Email and i will reply to you with all you may need to know.

    Hope this will be of some help.

    Matt.

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    • #3
      Hello Elaine ,aussies

      More info wanted Looking for grand dad's old Navy buddy.

      ill need more info about this person. by name, rank, marine number or photograph by your grandDad's photos or familybooks of his Navy buddies into the photobook.


      The cruiser Tromp,
      One of four Australian-based Dutch warships that operated with Allied navies in the Pacific and Indian Oceans in WW II

      For protection, merchant ships were formed up into convoys whenever possible and escorted by warships. In Australia's case, convoy escort included everything from protecting oil tankers crossing the Indian Ocean, to looking after troop ships headed into the Pacific, and much in between. Warships were also needed for general sea control over large areas and offensive operations against land targets. As a result, the allies needed warships in large numbers to fight and support the Pacific War.

      The Dutch contributed a cruiser, three destroyers, a minesweeper and varying numbers of submarines. The first to arrive - in late February 1942 - was the light cruiser RNN Tromp, then one of ten Royal Netherlands Navy (RNN) warships in Indonesia, along with 15 submarines, 13 motor torpedo boats, some mine warfare craft, and 64 flying boats.

      Tromp was sent to Australia for battle-damage repairs just before most of the RNN surface fleet and eight submarines were destroyed in the Battle of the Java Sea and its aftermath. A minesweeper, disguised as an island during the day, escaped to Fremantle - as did three submarines, all much in need of repairs. One submarine was scrapped. The other two were repaired and operated from the big Allied submarine base at Fremantle, mostly on covert support of clandestine operations in occupied Indonesian territory.

      The flying boats fared better. Many had joined an air-shuttle flying key personnel out of Indonesia to Australia via Broome. Fifteen flying boats were in Roebuck Bay near Broome on 3 March 1942 when Japanese Zeros from Timor attacked. All the flying boats and some other Allied aircraft were destroyed, and a hundred or more people killed. The remaining RNN flying boats mostly made it to Australia, some going on to RAAF service, and others relocating to Ceylon (now Sri Lanka) to fly Indian Ocean sorties to help protect oil convoys and Allied shipping in general.

      As a result, Tromp was the only RNN surface warship from Indonesia able to relocate to Australia. This good fortune held for the entire war, during which she survived many battles and become known to her crew as "the lucky ship". Perhaps her most remarkable survival was during an attack on Sabong Island, just north of Sumatra, on 25 July 1944. Tromp entered the harbour with orders to destroy port installations and oil tanks. The battle was fierce, with Tromp taking three hits from enemy shells. Remarkably, none exploded and the crew wrapped two of the still hot shells in blankets and dumped them overboard. Her prolonged survival against such odds seems to have got under the skin of the Japanese who claimed (via Tokyo Rose) to have rid themselves of her a number of times, but never did.

      Following repairs, in mid-1942 she was sent to Fremantle for Indian Ocean convoy duties, adding further to Dutch warship numbers sailing with Allied fleets. Most were RNN ships from the Netherlands that had escaped to England ahead of the German invasion. Three such ships, the destroyers Jacob van Heemskerk, Van Galen and Tjerk Hiddes, joined Tromp soon after her arrival in Fremantle. Like Tromp, they served throughout the war on escort duties and offensive operations against the Japanese.

      Captain Tromp and period
      19.07.1941-15.08.1942 Kapitein-Luitenant ter zee J.B. de Meester
      16.08.1942-08.10.1943 Kapitein ter zee J.B. de Meester
      08.10.1943-30.04.1946 Kapitein-Luitenant ter zee F. Stam
      01.05.1946-17.03.1947 Kapitein ter zee F. Stam

      next info wanted:

      Ship (hr.ms.Tromp)
      Period (1942-1944)
      CDT (KTZ. Stam)

      Place (??Cockattoo Docks sydney,Trincomalee,Fremantle ????

      Your family id:

      Your friends id:

      Firstname
      Familyname
      Rank
      Marinenumber
      Photograph's

      Hello Matt good to see you


      pictures update by Rob R and Henk C

      picture 1943: Moet begin 1940 zijn, het boordvliegtuig voert nog de grote driehoek als nationaliteits
      kenteken.
      picture1944: Vermoedelijk ook begin 1940, geen 100% zekerheid. Heb een andere foto waarop
      het boordvliegtuig de kleine driehoek voert, die moet dus van eind 1940, begin 1941 zijn.
      picture 1946
      : Heb ik als "1945" gedateerd staan, maar kan ook met jouw redenering meegaan.
      --
      RNN Tromp 1943.jpg

      Tromp 1946.jpg

      tromp 1944.jpg

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      • #4
        Tromp (book)

        A nice book, but in Dutch. MVG G.Horneman


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        Scannen0006.jpg
        In time of War, but not before,
        God and the Sailor we adore ashore.
        Buth when War is over and Peace remitted,
        God is forgotten and the Sailor quited.

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        • #5
          ab Tromp - Battle of Bandung Strait - Ritsma or

          I'm looking for the correct name of one of the officers killed ab HrMs Tromp during the Battle of Bandung Strait on 20 February 1942.

          My source tells me the correct name is Ltz. II Bob "Reitsma van Eck".

          But another sources speeks about ltz. II "Ritsma van Eek".

          Can someone tell me which name is correct ?

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          • #6
            Re: ab Tromp - Battle of Bandung Strait - Ritsma

            "Prowler" wrote: I'm looking for the correct name of one of the officers killed ab HrMs Tromp during the Battle of Bandung Strait on 20 February 1942.

            My source tells me the correct name is Ltz. II Bob "Reitsma van Eck".

            But another sources speeks about ltz. II "Ritsma van Eek".

            Can someone tell me which name is correct ?
            The officer killed was Lieutenant (LTZ2) Simon Cornelis Ritsema van Eck, born july 22 1909 in Pandangan (Java). Sadly his brother died on board the cruiser Java barely a week later.
            http://www.netherlandsnavy.nl

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            • #7
              Tromp

              For more information see GB 110, vol. IV, part 12; bijlage 12, pag. 263. (10 cass.) greatings G.Horneman


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              Scannen0011.jpg
              In time of War, but not before,
              God and the Sailor we adore ashore.
              Buth when War is over and Peace remitted,
              God is forgotten and the Sailor quited.

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              • #8
                Visje & Gerard many thanks!

                Michael

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                • #9
                  Hello Elaine , .....??? ????

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                  • #10
                    Foto's Tromp

                    Folkert,

                    De jaartallen die je geeft bij de drie foto's van de Tromp moeten wellicht even opnieuw bekeken worden.
                    Op de tweede en derde foto is het schip nog uitgerust met de twee masten op het achterschip. Die masten gingen er bij de onderhouds- en reparatiewerkzaamheden rond juni 1942 volgens mij af. Ik hou het er op dat de foto's van voor de oorlog zijn.
                    De eerste foto is wellicht een twijfelgeval. De foto toont het schip in de configuratie van oktober 1943 tot eind oorlog. De camouflage hoort geloof ik bij de Britse Pacific vloot. Het kan zijn dat de foto dateert uit begin 1946 toen het schip op weg ging naar Nederland en daarbij Sydney nog heeft aangedaan. Ik denk dat de foto dateert van einde oorlog, maar als iemand de juiste datum weet dan hoor ik dat graag.

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                    • #11
                      Foto's Tromp

                      Henk,

                      Ik heb de volgende data bij die fotp's staan:
                      Foto 1943: Moet begin 1940 zijn, het boordvliegtuig voert nog de grote driehoek als nationaliteits
                      kenteken.
                      Foto 1944: Vermoedelijk ook begin 1940, geen 100% zekerheid. Heb een andere foto waarop
                      het boordvliegtuig de kleine driehoek voert, die moet dus van eind 1940, begin 1941 zijn.
                      Foto 1946: Heb ik als "1945" gedateerd staan, maar kan ook met jouw redenering meegaan.

                      Groeten,

                      Rob B

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                      • #12
                        Prowler schreef Bekijk Berichten
                        I'm looking for the correct name of one of the officers killed ab HrMs Tromp during the Battle of Bandung Strait on 20 February 1942.
                        The Battle in the Badoeng Strait was a nocturnal battle in the Badoeng Strait near Bali (not to be confused with Bandoeng- or Bandung Strait ).

                        De 11 Japanse treffers die Hr. Ms. Tromp op 20 februari 1942 had moeten incasseren bleken de redding van het schip te betekenen. De Allied Striking Force, waartoe de Tromp had behoord, werd in de nacht van 27 op 28 februari 1942 tijdens de Slag in de Javazee verpletterend verslagen. Door de gedwongen uitwijking naar Australi kon de Tromp ontkomen aan de geallieerde nederlaag in Nederlands Oost-Indi.
                        Vroeg in de avond van 27 februari 1942 vertrok Hr. Ms. Tromp uit Fremantle en zette koers naar Sydney. Hier waren de faciliteiten aanwezig om de kruiser te repareren. Op 3 maart kwam het schip aan in Sydney en ging meteen door naar de marinewerf op Cockatoo Island. De Tromp werd hier niet alleen hersteld maar ook gemoderniseerd.
                        Vriendelijke groet, Hans.

                        "Om de kracht van het anker te voelen moet men de storm trotseren". (Pas als je iets ernstig meemaakt, weet je op wie je kan vertrouwen).

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